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The “Wide Awake” singer has responded to commentary surrounding her decision to work with controversia producer Dr. Luke as a collaborator on her upcoming album, 143.

“I understand that it started a lot of conversations,” Perry said on the Sept. 4 episode of the Call Her Daddy With Alex Cooper podcast. “And he was one of many collaborators that I collaborated with.”

The pair have a long history together, stretching back to the producer’s involvement with her first chart-topping single “I Kissed a Girl” in 2008. However, the 39-year-old wanted fans to know that collaborations aside, the music comes from just one place.

“But the reality is it comes from me,” the “Woman’s World” singer noted. “The truth is I wrote these songs from my experience of my whole life going through this metamorphosis, and he was one of the people to help facilitate all that—one of the writers, one of the producers.”

Despite involvement of Dr. Luke, who was embroiled in a messy lawsuit with singer Kesha after she accused him of drugging her and sexually assaulting her, accusations which he denied, Perry noted that her experience writing and recording this new music was incredibly feminine.

“I am speaking from my own experience,” the performer, who shares daughter Daisy with Orlando Bloom, explained. “When I speak about ‘Woman’s World,’ I speak about feeling so empowered now as a mother, as a woman, giving birth creating life, creating another set of organs, a brain, a heart. I created a whole-a-- heart and I did it. I’m still doing it. And I’m still a matriarch. And feeling really grounded in that, that’s where I’m speaking from.”

As for her decision to release new music, the former American Idol judge noted that it was  purely an artistic decision on her part.

“I don’t feel like I have to make music,” she said. “I don’t feel like I have to prove anything. I’m doing it now from a place of celebration and love.”

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